I Believe That the City of El Paso Criminally Violated the Texas Public Information Act – El Paso News Organization

I Believe That the City of El Paso Criminally Violated the Texas Public Information Act

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  1. Thomas says:

    Martin
    Be very carefully it is a crime in the state of Texas to possess stolen governemtn document. It is a crime for an official of government to use their office to to obtain government recorders unlawfully and also once they have them they are guilty of possessing stolen documents. Do not be suppressed they try and use you as a scapegoat to cover the city official and the city multiple violation of the law.
    Martin you need to make a OOR to ask for a record of all request made for this document and who request them,when those request were made and when rendered. Better do some CYA because you can bet the city will not cover you and have zero problem selling you down the river to cover up their criminal malfeasance.

  2. Thomas says:

    Oh martin that should have been “surprised”. So do not let them give you a big good ole boy surprise, surprise, surprise.

  3. Anglocentric says:

    I think it is incompetence more than anything else. I was a victim of identity theft and filed a police report. I needed a copy of the report to lock down my credit reports free of charge. Getting a copy of the police report was like pulling teeth. The clerk was rude and very arrogant. It was like dealing with the soup Nazi on Seinfeld. I used the wrong terminology when referring to the case tracking number and got a lecture. With folks like that, it is no wonder this issue exists. I’ve found police officers to be great, but the admin side needs an attitude adjustment. Another interesting note was that even filing a police report was a nightmare. I tried to do it online, but their computer system had bugs and wasn’t generating the reports. The phone in option didn’t want to take new report in case the computer report actually came through (it didn’t). The operator I gave my information to, left out significant details so pretty much had to give the information a third time to the detective assigned to the case. In short, I understand how records get lost.

  4. Thomas says:

    Anglocentric
    This document wasn’t lost it was with held with intent to violated the law until some one give a a copy to Martin then the cat was out of the bag then it was like a cat trying to cover up it’s poop in a litter box. Local government does this time and time again and they know no one will hold them accountable. At best you may get the county attorney’s office, on a civil complaint on a violation of open records, to wiggle a little finger at them and say bad city government for a show for the public but that is about it.

  5. Anglocentric says:

    It may have been both lost and withheld. If blue team records are filed in some special way or not part of the regular search system, clerks may not be finding them. The bigger question is why is a VIP process necessary? Special treatment? Keeping the majority of the force ignorant of how dysfunctional our leaders are? That ought to be the bigger debate.

  6. Vendetta915 says:

    Keeping digging and now include the County Commissioners name in there and you will uncover a lot more then that.

  7. Thomas says:

    Anglocentric
    This is a problem we have across all of government the way some are given special treatment that the average nobody citizen wouldn’t receive. It’s wrong but we see this going on all the time from those in El Paso such as Ordaz and Perez to Paxton at the state level to Hillary at the Federal level. Where the process would bring the full weight and measure of law enforcement and the law on people like you and me they get a free pass, special treatment. When any society has a double standard for the haves and have nots then process will never be right and will always be unfair, degrades the society and undermines our government. Then again whether in El Paso or across America it’s excepted by the majority who will not stand up and say anything.
    Anglocentric nobody is going to file any complaint in the City of El Paso over this and next time it happens it get easier to look the other way.

  8. Thomas says:

    Vendetta915
    Here is the problem to really do something about it it takes a lot of money. You would need to get thousands of dollars worth of records, lawyers from out side of El Paso. A few researchers and private investigators would not hurt. Then to wage a long protracted court battle would cost. Most of us cannot afford it and our elected officials know this. They know most will whine and cry and give it a little while you will go away
    We just had a d discussion with someone in El PAso government on this and privately your elected officials make fun of all of you because they know how weak you are and do nothing and they know they have little to fear. What you guys going to whine them into submission! Good luck on that one.

  9. Barbs says:

    Have Barbara Carassco file the complaint for you. That lady is great at filing complaints and she has been a guest on your blog, or is she just an ankle biter?

  10. You don't know says:

    Barbara is a strong supporter of civic duty and justice. Trust me, if she bites your ankle, we’ll see what’s left.

    She can’t fight this fight alone it requires every citizen to get off their ass.

  11. Vendetta915 says:

    I once heard a fella talk about how having one newspaper in town and one party basically is part of the issue here in El Paso County. He talks about how the issue is not a municipal issue but rather a county level issue at the very minimum. He also stated thar when the Herald closed it doors he Check & Balances in the media went out the door. He said that if the Republicans or Independents can get more than just their foot in the door things would be different.

  12. Elucidator says:

    Please see Kallinen v. City of Houston, 462 SW 3d 25 Tex. 2015. A party has a right to bring mandamus action if documents are withheld, if no OAG opinion is requested, or while pending an OAG decision.

    What you are describing goes on state-wide. Dallas tried to withhold dashcam video, Laredo tried to withhold the last two pages of its Use of Force policy, and San Antonio orchestrated a cost-prohibitive cost estimate for information I knew to be readily obtainable. They all ask for “clarification” because it extends the time deadlines. And hardly no one responds as quickly as El Paso did for you. Persistence, persistence, persistence! Y’all need to compile a lengthy list of infractions, one alone won’t do it. I’m in San Antonio, stumbled onto this by accident, but am glad I did!

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