Counterpoint – Living in the USA – Legally versus Illegally

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  1. Other countries require knocking at the door says:

    Interesting that since it has been announced that Trump could be the next President, there increased chatter among non citizens to apply for citizenship. The fear is that they will be deported, these are resident aliens that lived here for many years.

    The other interesting point is that a country that is hated and crictized is the one that others sneak into. Their country of choice because it offers freedom and economic opportunity. Something they didn’t have in their home country, so why the strong allegiance to a country they fled? Even worse, they refuse to assimilate and obey this nation’s laws, even choosing to replicate their former country environment, chaos, poverty, lawlessness. That makes even less sense. You hate the new country but do not return to what you fled.

    We hear about a wall as being discriminatory while other countries have borders that are fenced and draconian immigration laws, yet attack the U.S. for trying to enforce border control and enforcement. Truth is a fence, which I believe to be minimally effective, would not affect effect on trade. Legal trade crosses at at legal points of entry. It would be cheaper and more effective if the Mexican and the U.S. would agree to enforce immigration on both sides of the border. The U.S. could train and equip the Mexican agents. Worried about corruption ? The U.S. has it share of corrupt border agents, so Mexico would have to aggressively punish those that are corrupt. Now isn’t that cheaper and make more sense that a billion dollar fence ? Of course Mexico would have to enforce the law as vigorously as it does on its Southern Border that has a WALL.

    Try to sneak into another country and violate its laws. Either you are incarcerated or immediately deported. Let’s be honest, how many are actually victims of government oppression? I get it everyone wants to follow the yellow brick road to a better life. Do it the proper way and live that dream without always living in fear of being caught. When you get here, LEARN the language and customs. To do that is not a betrayal of your heritage, it improves your opportunities.

    Mexico and others, HELP the people. Education, jobs, fair wages, better living condition, etc. Do that and the people will not flee to other places. I would think that a country would not want a history of its people fleeing for a better life. To me I would be embarrassed to have my country known as a horrific place to live. Is the U.S. perfect, no, and it can do better. With all its imperfections, it is still the country of choice when fleeing from another country.

    • abandon hope says:

      Totally agree with you and Ms. Carrasco. If the U.S. government really wanted to stop illegal immigration, ALL employers who hire illegals would be imprisoned or heavy fined. That hasn’t happened. Why not? And the U.S. needs to repeal laws that encourage the recent widespread Cuban immigration. Everyone should have to abide by immigration laws. Otherwise It’s a slap in the face to those who become citizens legally.

  2. Anglocentric says:

    All of this is well said. The popularity of Trump is fueled by the open borders lobbyist groups that call Americans racists for wanting to enforce our laws (which are more lenient than those of Mexico). I welcome a return to nationalism because in every other country I visit, enforcing the laws of that country and being openly proud to be a citizen of that country is considered the right thing to do. Folks that visit are expected to obey all laws and if immigration is allowed (because not all countries have the US’ generous immigration policies), immigrants are expected to assimilate and support themselves. It is time we got back to expecting (and demanding) the same thing here. It isn’t racist, it is common sense and if folks coming from the rest of the world are not willing to respect that, then we do need a wall, faster deportations and bigger penalties for employing illegal aliens. Anything else is a slap in the face to those who respect our laws and immigrate legally.

  3. lisa says:

    Couldn’t have said it any better. Imagine how the people who tried their hardest to immigrate legally to the US so that they could assimilate, be proud of the US flag and feel patriotic and grateful for a new life? It’s a MAJOR slap in the face to these legal immigrants and see people sneak illegally into our country and enjoy free schooling, housing, govt assistance, etc and then to DIS the very country who allows them to stay. If I think illegals should STOP sneaking into our country and taking advantage of American generosity; then yes, I suppose that makes me “racist”. PUH-LEEZE!!!!!!! The term ‘ ILLEGAL” is not a race or ethnicity; it’s breaking the law.

  4. JerryK says:

    Eisenhower initiated Operation Wetback in which machine gun towers were built along the border to stop migrants from Mexico. Illegals in the US were picked up and repatriated into central Mexico so they couldn’t just walk across the border again. This was not aimed at the legitimate and needed bracero program to import temporary agricultural workers.

    It worked while it worked. The current one-size-fits-all immigration policy needs to be revisited to assure that we are bringing in people with skills we need, not just third world refugees for Hillary’s future Democratic welfare state.

  5. Robb Chavez says:

    Appears that the racist Trump virus is alive & well in El Paso, to infect the city with xenophobia & the kind of hatred unseen on a large scale since the shameful Dixiecrat days of the 50s & 60s. Even worse is that some of the most adamant bigots are the self-hating Hispanics, who seem to wish they were white.

    At times, El Paso bears a slight resemblance to Mississippi on the Border. Ol’ times there are not forgotten.

    • abandon hope says:

      I challenge you to write 100 words without using the words bigot, racist or related catch phrases. The issue is not racism, it’s whether people should come here legally or illegally.

    • JerryK says:

      Like the local Border Patrol union that recently endorsed Trump? I was not aware that they were white Dixiecrat racists. Maybe they just don’t think that catch-and-release is good immigration policy?

  6. question says:

    funny how “Robb” writes his name with 2 b’s. So “Robb” are you ashamed to be Mexican ? Trying to imitate the Gringo way ?

  7. Marty V. C. says:

    Robb I would recommend you read the article again. I think the actual premise may have slipped your mind. This isn’t an article stating Mexicans are terrible people. It is simply showing how legalized citizens from another country and illegal citizens live. It is unfortunate that you can’t see beyond the crap of racism and bigotry. And with a last name Carrasco, I can only imagine that the individual who wrote is not hispanic, but may actually have a greater understanding of what she is writing based on locale and experience in that particular locale.

    • Marty V. C. says:

      i don’t know how to edit but correction on sentence is needed as follows:
      I can only imagine that the individual who wrote is not only hispanic, but may actually have a greater understanding of what she is writing about based on her locale and experience in that particular locale.

  8. Other countries require knocking at the door says:

    Mrs. Carrrasco is Hispanic. She and her husband fulfilled the American dream thru hard work. They came from humble beginnings.

    If there is a virus identified as xenophobia, then the vast majority of the world has it because they have border control and immigration laws. That by the way includes Mexico. There is no bigotry involved just a desire to know who is coming and purpose.

    Why isn’t your Roberto instead of Robb ? Americans come in many colors, sizes, cultures, goals, beliefs. Those that believe only white skinned people are American are showing bigotry. Perhaps you have a desire to be a white Mexican ? I’m brown and proud of it. I got news for you, be brown and be assimilated. In other regions of the U.S. life is good. The only issues have been in El Paso, a brown city. Where the majority and people of authority are brown. Now isn’t that odd that the brown in this city claim discrimination ? Quit using that bs as an excuse !

    • JerryK says:

      There is only one race – the human race. But we are different nationalities and the American nationality that we (legally) all are is the best. Why else would everyone want to immigrate here?

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